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SacL5 Meeting 9/13/25

Mission – Why We Exist

  • Help enthusiasts find ways to contribute.
  • Provide sources of enabling training to facilitate engineering prototyping.
  • Establish a clearinghouse for the ongoing objective analysis of proposed space development technologies.

Meeting Details for each Months Meeting

Meeting Call: Sacramento L5 Society, Local Chapter, National Space Society
Where: Virtual presence only, via Zoom
When: Second Saturday, each month beginning at 6pm PT
 
Pre-Zoom notes:
•These meetings are recorded.
•Folks will be asked to briefly share their video, and phone callers asked to identify themselves.
•We use the “waiting room” format. If I keep you waiting, call me and bawl me out! 916-429-6252
 
Join Zoom meeting:
Find your local number: https://us06web.zoom.us/u/kbdpRGEmNm
Meeting ID: 868 9868 4719
 
Joe Bland
President, SL5S
7482 Greenhaven Drive
Sacramento, CA 95831
916-429-6252
 

Home Page: SacramentoL5Society.org

SacL5 Officers: Joe Bland President, Jan Rosten VP, Ed Kulis Secretary/Website Admin (click name to email)


Sacramento L5 Society (SacL5) — Meeting Minutes

Date: Saturday, September 13, 2025

Time: 6:00–7:30 PM (Pacific)

Location: Zoom (meeting recorded; waiting room used)

Website: https://sacramentol5society.nss.org

Attendance

  • Joe Bland (President)
  • Jan Roston
  • Ed Kulis
  • Michael Abramson

1) Call to Order & Opening (6:00–6:05 PM)

Welcome and margin for arrivals; greeting of new members.

  • Joe shared updates on two engine-related patents and used an extending prototype to illustrate process.
  • Patent process highlights noted: provisional filings (1-year window), sequence of publication (provisional not published; standard application publishes upon response), and shift from “conception & diligence” to “first-to-file.”

2) Reports & General Chapter Business (6:05–7:30 PM)

President & Treasurer’s Report (Joe Bland)

  • US Bank account frozen pending tax/registration clarifications. Two EINs exist; clarification needed between NSS EIN and SacL5 EIN.
    SacL5 never filed with Franchise Tax Board; as a corporation must file. Joe spoke with FTB for remediation steps (~11–18 months).
  • Bank has paper trail; awaiting callback from representative.
  • Benevity: funds associated but not transferred; hours to be submitted after New Year.

SacL5 Website Update (Ed Kulis)

  • Brief status update; no blocking issues noted.

NSS Chapters’ Assembly (Jan Roston)

  • Focus on Chapter Resources; encourage Perri coordination and reduction of inactive chapter sites.
  • Encourage photo submissions to Perri; copyright caution.
  • Bill.com may streamline chapter rebates.
    NSS planning Fall advocacy meeting in Washington, DC; emphasis on unified messaging and communication impact tiers.

White Paper: Open Space Organization (OSO) — Lead: Michael Abramson

  • Artemis Accords are strong for states, but OSO extends to private, NGO, and individual actors.
  • Focus: mutual aid, transparency, interoperability, and consensus-based governance.
  • Proposed structure: permanent members have veto; MRC final authority via approval voting.
    Joe to draft Lunar Power Utility case study; Ed to post OSO materials when publishing pipeline ready.

Old Business

  • Continue MiniCube balloon flight design (Ed Kulis, Paul Turner)
  • Eric’s steam engine finished (Eric James)
  • Space Radiation Hazards—coordination with Jane Shevtsov (OASIS)
  • NASA grant application tracking (Joe Bland)
  • Earth-gravity lunar settlement concepts (Joe Bland, Don Wade)
  • Propulsion system discussion (Gerald Nordley, Joe Bland)

Action Items Summary

Task

Owner

Notes/Target

Resolve frozen bank account; clarify EIN usage

Joe Bland

FTB filings (11–18 months); bank callback pending

Submit Benevity hours

Ed Kulis

After New Year

Contact Ken Davis (Sacramento SES)

Paul Turner

Outreach planned

Draft advocacy text for Congress

Unassigned

 

Provide Senate contact template

Joe Bland

Support member outreach

Coordinate with Perri on Chapter Resources

Jan Roston

Clarify structure, reduce zombie sites

Submit photos to Perri

All / Jan Roston

Respect copyright

Post OSO materials

Ed Kulis

When publishing pipeline ready

Draft Lunar Power Utility case study

Joe Bland

Example for OSO white paper

Adjournment

Meeting adjourned at 7:30 PM.

Project Activities

Projects in Progress

  • Balloon Device Project – See: Details
    • Project started for see details page created on website
  • Eric’s Steam Engine
    • Will run on compressed air. 
    • It’s a “Walking Beam” Design with fly-ball governors to stabilize speed with  offset cams to operate the steam valves.
  • White Paper on an Open Space Organization
    • Development of White Paper on an “Open Space Organization (OSO) (Michael Abramson)
    • Michael presented the current state of the proposed white paper.
    • We will look for other names since “Open Space Organization” has awkward connotations and  “Outer Space Organization” may be in use by other organizations.
    • Here are a few alternative suggested by Michael and Joe:
    • Open Outer Space Organization (OOSO)
      • United Outer Space Organization (UOSO)
      • Space Development Organization (SDO)
      • Space Developers Organization (SDO)
      • Outer Space Development Organization (OSDO)
      • Outer Space Developers Organization (OSDO)
      • United Space Development Organization (USDO)
      • United Space Developers Organization (USDO)
      • United Outer Space Development Organization (UOSDO)
      • United Outer Space Developers Organization (UOSDO
      • Organization of Outer Space Development  (OOSD)
      • Organization of Outer Space Developers  (OOSD)
  • Joe’s Projects and Patents
    • Joe’s patent applications on energy generation, storage, and distribution still in process
    • Patent office hasn’t rejected any patents and the process is moving forward.

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