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SacL5 Meeting 4/12/25

Mission – Why We Exist

  • Help enthusiasts find ways to contribute.
  • Provide sources of enabling training to facilitate engineering prototyping.
  • Establish a clearinghouse for the ongoing objective analysis of proposed space development technologies.

Meeting Details for each Months Meeting

Meeting Call: Sacramento L5 Society, Local Chapter, National Space Society
Where: Virtual presence only, via Zoom
When: Second Saturday, each month beginning at 6pm PT
 
Pre-Zoom notes:
•These meetings are recorded.
•Folks will be asked to briefly share their video, and phone callers asked to identify themselves.
•We use the “waiting room” format. If I keep you waiting, call me and bawl me out! 916-429-6252
 
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Meeting ID: 868 9868 4719
 
Joe Bland
President, SL5S
7482 Greenhaven Drive
Sacramento, CA 95831
916-429-6252
 

Home Page: SacramentoL5Society.org

SacL5 Officers: Joe Bland President, Jan Rosten VP, Ed Kulis Secretary/Website Admin (click name to email)


Sacramento L5 Society (SacL5) – Meeting Minutes

Date: Saturday, April 12, 2025

Time: 6:00 PM – 7:35 PM PDT

Location: Zoom (Virtual only)

Chair: Joe Bland, President

Recorder: Ed

Attendees: Joe ,Ec,  Gregory, Eric, Michael, Robin, Paul, Jan

1. Opening

– Meeting opened at 6:00 PM by Joe Bland.

– New member Robint welcomed.

– Paul noted he would arrive late.

2. President’s & Treasurer’s Report (Joe Bland)

Issues with frozen and new checking accounts remain unresolved.
Funds exceeding $12,000 exist but lack of access persists due to:
– No response from the bank.
– Need for signature verification.
– Unknown status of signatory authority.
Larry Ahern is no longer VP; new VP is unclear on signature requirements.
NSS requesting proof of nonprofit status:
– Need a signed EIN document.
– Joe Redfield and Carol to provide support documents.
– Dave Stuart and new VP have not responded to nonprofit status inquiry.

3. Project & Technical Updates

Balloon and MiniCube Efforts:

– Ken Davis may contribute.
– JP activities:
  – Testing half-height rack with less helium.
  – Planning a mini-cube flight, though no schedule confirmed.
  – Proposal: promotional image with board logo instead of previous $20,000 display deal.
– Submarine project progressing; issue with motor remains, but control system developing.

4. Website and Communications

– Ed Kulis provided update on SacL5 website.

– Ongoing work on online presence and resources.

5. NSS and Chapter Committee Reports

Jan Roston reported:

– NSS Chapters’ Assembly discussed chapter reports.
– Many did not submit reports, including SacL5.
– Joe to submit report after April 15.
– Next Chapter Assembly: Monday at 5 PM PDT.

NSSCA Resources Subcommittee:

– Jan will request Perri to share resource link with Ed.

Chapter Committee (Joe Bland):

– Inquiries from Canada to start a chapter unresolved.
– Joe resent contact to new VP of chapters.
– SacL5 may assist Canadian effort.

6. Educational and Outreach Initiatives

– Paul Turner to update SES school contact and MiniCube Grant Program.

7. Old Business / Action Items

– Joe Bland:
  – Create 3D CAD model of MiniCube.
  – Remove XHS from agenda.

– Ed Kulis: Attempt to contact Kris.

– Michael Abramson: Continue development of white paper on “Open Space Organization (OSO)”.

8. New Business

– Discussed planning for balloon flights using one or two MiniCubes (Paul & Ed).
– Space News:
  – Concern over White House budget cuts to NASA.
  – Environmental concerns over SpaceX landing areas on protected atolls.
  – Joe banned from posting to NSS chapter list; Paul suggests creating SacL5’s own discussion platform.

9. Member Project Updates

– Eric James: Progress on steam engine project.

– Joe Bland: Pursuing potential NASA grant; update on patent likely to issue soon.

10. Open Discussion

– Michael Abramson referenced Timothy Snyder’s “On Tyranny” and internal NSS politics.
– Paul recommended a letter be drafted to obtain a signed nonprofit confirmation.
– Discussion of horizontal communication between chapters.


11. Adjournment

Meeting adjourned at 7:35 PM PDT.

Next meeting: Saturday 5/10/25 6pm PT


Project Activities

Projects in Progress

  • Balloon Device Project – See: Details
    • Project started for see details page created on website
  • Eric’s Steam Engine
    • Will run on compressed air. 
    • It’s a “Walking Beam” Design with fly-ball governors to stabilize speed with  offset cams to operate the steam valves.
  • White Paper on an Open Space Organization
    • Development of White Paper on an “Open Space Organization (OSO) (Michael Abramson)
    • Michael presented the current state of the proposed white paper.
    • We will look for other names since “Open Space Organization” has awkward connotations and  “Outer Space Organization” may be in use by other organizations.
    • Here are a few alternative suggested by Michael and Joe:
    • Open Outer Space Organization (OOSO)
      • United Outer Space Organization (UOSO)
      • Space Development Organization (SDO)
      • Space Developers Organization (SDO)
      • Outer Space Development Organization (OSDO)
      • Outer Space Developers Organization (OSDO)
      • United Space Development Organization (USDO)
      • United Space Developers Organization (USDO)
      • United Outer Space Development Organization (UOSDO)
      • United Outer Space Developers Organization (UOSDO
      • Organization of Outer Space Development  (OOSD)
      • Organization of Outer Space Developers  (OOSD)
  • Joe’s Projects and Patents
    • Joe’s patent applications on energy generation, storage, and distribution still in process
    • Patent office hasn’t rejected any patents and the process is moving forward.

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