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SacL5 Meeting 1/11/25

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Home Page: SacramentoL5Society.org

SacL5 Officers: Joe Bland President, Jan Rosten VP, Ed Kulis Secretary/Website Admin (click name to email)

Mission – Why We Exist

  • Help enthusiasts find ways to contribute.
  • Provide sources of enabling training to facilitate engineering prototyping.
  • Establish a clearinghouse for the ongoing objective analysis of proposed space development technologies.

Minutes

  • Greetings – Attendees!
    • Joe Bland, Paul Turner, Ed Kulis, Jan Rosten, Michael Abramson 

SPECIAL ITEM – VOTING SECTION

Discussion and vote on officers.* (Joe Bland)

The following members were nominated for offices:

  • President: Joe Bland
  • Vice President: Jan Rosten
  • Secretary: Ed Kulis
  • PLEASE SEND YOUR VOTES FOR OFFICERS TO:
    • Joseph Bland <[email protected]> or Jan Roston <[email protected]>
      • You may submit yourself for nomination for one of these offices within one week of receipt of these minutes provided you are a member in good standing of NSS.
      • You may vote for the above nominees or other subsequently announced following dissemination of these meeting minutes
      • You may change your votes up until the end of the next Sacramento L5 Society monthly meeting scheduled for February 8, 2025 at 6 PM PST.

ELECTION DETAILS

  • To vote, you are required to be either an NSS member in good standing (i.e., paid NSS dues) or a SacL5 member in good standing (i.e., paid SacL5 dues, presently $30). 
  • To run for office, you need to (a) be an NSS member in good standing (per NSS rules) and (b) be willing to attend most virtual SacL5 monthly meetings.
  • if you wish to run for an office, please let Jan and Joe know within the next week.)
  • NSS has no position on Chapter Members but Chapter Officers must be members of the NSS.

NOTE: VOTES AT THE JANUARY IN-PERSON MEETING IN FAVOR OF THE FOLLOWING TWO RESOLUTIONS WERE UNANIMOUS BUT MAY BE VOTED ON BY THOSE ELIGIBLE.

  • – Discussion and vote on changing yearly dues. (Joe Bland)
    • No change to the dues. They will remain $30 per year due in January
  • – Discussion and vote on changing the SacL5 monthly meeting time and/or day. (Eric James and Joe Bland)
    • For convenience in scheduling dinners  the meetings will henceforth begin at 6pm on the  second Saturday of the month and last 90 minutes

END VOTING SECTION


Meeting Business

  • President’s & Treasurer’s report. (Joe Bland)
    • Status of “frozen”checking account.
    • Original checking account was frozen after a phishing attack. No funds were lost.
    • A new bank account is necessary to unfreeze the funds in the original account.
    • Funds are available for withdrawal and transfer to a new account 
    • Status of “new” checking account.
    • Some good possibilities for interest bearing accounts
    • Opening new account requires paper work from NSS verifying that SacL5 is a non-profit under NSS.
    • Joe following up on obtaining that paper work. Present new NSS leadership policies and the resulting changeovers in NSS leadership positions is complicating the resolution of this issue.
  • Update on SacL5 website. (Ed Kulis)
  • NSS Chapters’ Assembly. Note: NSS CA is independent of NSS. (Jan Roston), 
    • No info – Jan will attend next meeting
  • NSSCA chapter resources subcommittee. (Ed Kulis)
    • Ed will work with Perri on next newsletter
  • NSS Chapter Committee (Joe Bland)
    • No current information presented.
  • NSS
    • Karlton Johnson is the new CEO NSS & Chairman National Space Society Board of Governors. He is replacing Anita Gale, who died suddenly last year, and was a stalwart supporter of NSS Chapters and their independence. Mr. Johnson appears to be more oriented towards controlling Chapters and “protecting” the NSS brand.
      • https://nss.org/karlton-johnson-biography/
  • Update on activity in XHS school contact and the SacL5 Minicube Build Grant Program (Ed Kulis)
    • No response from Xavier Hight School
    • Will no longer attempt to contact XHS
    • Will work with them if they showed a committed interest 
  • Update on activity in SES school contact and the “Sacramento L5 Society’s MiniCube Grant Program” (Paul Turner)
    • Paul will contact SES school regarding interest and activity
  • • Update on moving SacL5 funds into an interest-bearing account (Joe Bland)
    • See above “Status of “new” checking account.

Old Business

  • Development of White Paper on an “Open Space Organization (OSO) (Michael Abramson)
  • Michael presented the current state of the proposed white paper.
  • We will look for other names since “Open Space Organization” has awkward connotations and  “Outer Space Organization”
  • may be in use by other organizations.
  • Here are a few alternative suggested by Michael and Joe:
    • Open Outer Space Organization (OOSO)
      • United Outer Space Organization (UOSO)
      • Space Development Organization (SDO)
      • Space Developers Organization (SDO)
      • Outer Space Development Organization (OSDO)
      • Outer Space Developers Organization (OSDO)
      • United Space Development Organization (USDO)
      • United Space Developers Organization (USDO)
      • United Outer Space Development Organization (UOSDO)
      • United Outer Space Developers Organization (UOSDO
      • Organization of Outer Space Development  (OOSD)
      • Organization of Outer Space Developers  (OOSD)

New Business (the attending members)

    • Discuss starting items for a balloon flight device using one or two MiniCube flights (Ed Kulis, Paul Turner)
    • Attendees received favorably the idea for a build of a device using the talents and interest of the SacL5 members.
    • Preliminary objective defined as
    • Video recording of surrounding on ballon assent and descent
    • Elements of the effort will include: 
    • Video record of research and build
    • Use of Arduino build kits
    • Demonstration of publicly available CAD and 3D printing tools and services
    • Ed Kulis and Paul Turner to head up investigation of this new direction

Discussion on “Space News Items” (the attending members)

Update on member projects

  • Update on Eric’s steam engine (Eric James)
    • Eric has made progress on build of rocker arm steam engine model.
    • Eric will provide more information and possibly pictures and/or videos for the next meeting. Here is a link to a YouTube video of a similar model:
  • Update on potential NASA grant application and related subjects (Joe Bland)
    • Joe’s patent applications on energy generation, storage, and distribution still in process
Meeting Details for each Months Meeting
 
Meeting Call: Sacramento L5 Society, Local Chapter, National Space Society
Where: Virtual presence only, via Zoom
When: Second Saturday, each month
 
Pre-Zoom notes:
•These meetings are recorded.
•Folks will be asked to briefly share their video, and phone callers asked to identify themselves.
•We use the “waiting room” format. If I keep you waiting, call me and bawl me out! 916-429-6252
 
Join Zoom meeting:
Find your local number: https://us06web.zoom.us/u/kbdpRGEmNm
Meeting ID: 868 9868 4719
 
Joe Bland
President, SL5S
7482 Greenhaven Drive
Sacramento, CA 95831
916-429-6252
 
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